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jdstone1
post Feb 5 2008, 05:51 PM
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Came across this story about a British mans experience or perceived experience about being scammed. This is a very detailed account, Is it a good case study or a study in paranoia gone wild you be the judge.

http://hospitalscams.blogspot.com/


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post Mar 12 2008, 06:51 PM
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You know not for nothing...but I read the entire blog episode of this guy and MAyen and I'm sorry but everyone here is making him out to be the "bad" guy and MAyen as completely "innocent." I don't buy it. I think the "truth" falls somewhere in the middle. She doesn't sound all that innocent. Sounds to me like he fell for her and then she attempted to squeeze as much as she could out of him.
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QUOTE(mrlucky @ Mar 12 2008, 02:51 PM) [snapback]134526[/snapback]
You know not for nothing...but I read the entire blog episode of this guy and MAyen and I'm sorry but everyone here is making him out to be the "bad" guy and MAyen as completely "innocent." I don't buy it. I think the "truth" falls somewhere in the middle. She doesn't sound all that innocent. Sounds to me like he fell for her and then she attempted to squeeze as much as she could out of him.


The only part that really sounded suspicious to me would be the hospitalization part. But he got a copy of the hosptial bill, he got emails from the anestigiologist and many other proofs that would indicate that the hospitization part was legitimate. I just don't see how she attempted to squeeze as much as she could out of him.

From his summary:
  • she requests I send her some money to help with her internet expenses - but the request transforms into money for a health check - suspected Dengue Fever
  • Receive another request and send more money - this time for new lodgings
  • I receive a call from Mayen, moments after I log on to the Yahoo Messenger. She is in hospital - The Medical Center Paranaque - it transpires during the morning that she has to have an operation for an Ectopic Pregnancy. Would I send some money? Would I send 50,000 pesos via Western Union? I insist on dealing only directly with the hospital

Perhaps you see additional items that I am missing here?

On the other hand, we have his own behavior from his own words:
  • He was currently married at the time, and apparently still is
  • He decided to pursue a secret affair with a woman in the Philippines
  • While he was there he was looking for business opportunities that would make it possible for him to abandon his wife and move to the Philippines
  • He had unprotected sex with this woman on numerous occasions
  • He stated that he was prepared for the consequences of unprotected sex, but when those consequences happened he made every effort to avoid any personal responsibility and instead screamed 'scam' despite proofs to the contrary; including proofs that arrived to him through the British Embassy
  • He even tried to bait Mayen by repeatedly mentioning a western union money transfer that he never actually made in an effort to get her to try to go after the money. When she doesn't take the bait he became more and more direct, finally asking her outright if she ever got it. Then he goes on to profess that this is another example of her trying to scam him for money, when he is the one doing the scamming!
  • He repeatedly says that he has terminated communication with her, and yet he repeatedly returns to communicating with her. Always by his choice.

In addition he is of the opinion that this is an organized scam ring, yet absolutely nobody else on the entire internet has experienced the same thing.


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- jdstone1   Check this out   Feb 5 2008, 05:51 PM
- - Pang   Finally trudged through his story whew! I don...   Feb 11 2008, 03:11 PM
- - ellumbra   Thank you for the welcome to the forum   Feb 12 2008, 10:29 PM
- - JamboME   I am sorry he had a bad time. Good to keep in min...   Feb 13 2008, 01:16 AM
- - Southerndon   Tim, I"m in the process of reading your expe...   Feb 13 2008, 09:42 PM
- - ellumbra   Thank you for the welcome to the forum   Feb 13 2008, 10:17 PM
- - pulangbanca   wow. my opinion is that i don't think Mayen w...   Feb 14 2008, 03:42 AM
- - jdstone1   By the way Ellumbra welcome to WOF. I am very happ...   Feb 14 2008, 03:56 AM
- - Southerndon   Tim, I will promise one thing to you...Your blog ...   Feb 14 2008, 04:11 AM
- - ellumbra   Thank you for the welcome to the forum   Feb 14 2008, 05:35 AM
- - Little Mermaid   WElcome to the Forum, Ellumbra. I find your blog ...   Feb 14 2008, 01:11 PM
- - ruby120583   after reading ur blogs for hours,, i feel sad for ...   Feb 14 2008, 02:05 PM
- - nite_guy   Hello ellumbra I read you blog, but didn't fe...   Feb 14 2008, 07:39 PM
- - Southerndon   Sir Tim, I went to finish reading your blog today...   Feb 15 2008, 04:31 AM
|- - nite_guy   QUOTE(Southerndon @ Feb 14 2008, 10:31 PM...   Feb 15 2008, 02:29 PM
|- - Southerndon   QUOTE(nite_guy @ Feb 15 2008, 09:29 AM) 1...   Feb 15 2008, 03:27 PM
- - DrDisk   I had a chance to read the entire blog, before he ...   Feb 15 2008, 05:12 PM
|- - Pang   QUOTE(DrDisk @ Feb 15 2008, 11:12 AM) 130...   Feb 15 2008, 05:38 PM
|- - ellumbra   QUOTE(DrDisk @ Feb 15 2008, 05:12 PM) 130...   Feb 16 2008, 04:24 AM
- - ellumbra   Thank you for the welcome to the forum   Feb 15 2008, 05:20 PM
|- - Pang   QUOTE(ellumbra @ Feb 15 2008, 11:20 AM) 1...   Feb 15 2008, 06:11 PM
|- - ellumbra   QUOTE(Pang @ Feb 15 2008, 06:11 PM) 13017...   Feb 15 2008, 06:45 PM
|- - Pang   QUOTE(ellumbra @ Feb 15 2008, 12:45 PM) 1...   Feb 15 2008, 07:23 PM
|- - Pang   QUOTE(ellumbra @ Feb 15 2008, 12:45 PM) 1...   Feb 15 2008, 08:20 PM
- - Pang   more: http://journals.aol.com/ellumbra/tierra-ma.....   Feb 15 2008, 06:19 PM
- - ellumbra   This is not entertainment. There are serious impli...   Feb 15 2008, 06:38 PM
|- - Pang   QUOTE(ellumbra @ Feb 15 2008, 12:38 PM) 1...   Feb 15 2008, 07:01 PM
|- - John C   QUOTE(ellumbra @ Feb 15 2008, 10:38 AM) 1...   Feb 15 2008, 08:27 PM
|- - pulangbanca   QUOTE(ellumbra @ Feb 15 2008, 10:38 AM) 1...   Feb 15 2008, 09:13 PM
|- - Southerndon   QUOTE(ellumbra @ Feb 15 2008, 01:38 PM) 1...   Feb 15 2008, 09:30 PM
|- - ellumbra   QUOTE(Southerndon @ Feb 15 2008, 09:30 PM...   Feb 16 2008, 03:20 AM
- - MrkGrismer   http://ellumbra.buzznet.com/user/journal/1...a-est...   Feb 15 2008, 06:48 PM
- - DrDisk   Ellumbra, You show NO proof that any scam ever to...   Feb 15 2008, 07:31 PM
|- - Pang   QUOTE(DrDisk @ Feb 15 2008, 01:31 PM) 130...   Feb 15 2008, 08:08 PM
- - nite_guy   ellumbra you are using circular logic. Or should I...   Feb 15 2008, 07:58 PM
- - ellumbra   OK - One by one, I will answer your comments. MrkG...   Feb 16 2008, 02:12 AM
|- - pulangbanca   pulangbanca It all depends on what you call facts ...   Feb 16 2008, 10:21 AM
|- - MrkGrismer   QUOTE(ellumbra @ Feb 15 2008, 09:12 PM) 1...   Feb 16 2008, 05:54 PM
- - DrDisk   QUOTEDrDiskYou have already proved by your ill cho...   Feb 16 2008, 02:55 AM
- - DrDisk   QUOTEMy entire blog - the whole story - is only lo...   Feb 16 2008, 03:06 AM
|- - ellumbra   QUOTE(DrDisk @ Feb 16 2008, 03:06 AM) 130...   Feb 16 2008, 03:23 AM
|- - DrDisk   QUOTE(ellumbra @ Feb 15 2008, 07:23 PM) 1...   Feb 16 2008, 03:37 AM
|- - ellumbra   QUOTE(DrDisk @ Feb 16 2008, 03:37 AM) 130...   Feb 16 2008, 03:54 AM
|- - ellumbra   Another repeat posting - I cannot remove it - so -...   Feb 16 2008, 03:54 AM
|- - ellumbra   Going to get some rest now - nite nite all - God b...   Feb 16 2008, 03:55 AM
|- - ellumbra   Got a repeat posting which I have removed.   Feb 16 2008, 03:55 AM
- - ellumbra   In answer to all the comments that state that ther...   Feb 16 2008, 09:23 AM
- - jdstone1   Mark a very objective analysis. Did not realize I ...   Feb 16 2008, 10:31 PM
- - ellumbra   I shall always put truth and honesty before anythi...   Feb 17 2008, 03:02 AM
- - DrDisk   I think ellumbra is enjoying all the attention he ...   Feb 17 2008, 03:25 AM
- - Mel   Mark, U should be a detective investigating ...   Feb 17 2008, 03:38 AM
- - ellumbra   DrDisk To answer your question, Yesterday, 04:16 A...   Feb 17 2008, 03:47 AM
- - ellumbra   Moderated due to violation of Posting PM's   Feb 17 2008, 03:49 AM
- - ellumbra   Edited due to PM posting violation   Feb 17 2008, 03:51 AM
|- - Southerndon   deleted due to PM posting rule violation   Feb 17 2008, 04:11 AM
- - ellumbra   13. No one is allowed to post PM's on the open...   Feb 17 2008, 03:53 AM
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|- - Southerndon   QUOTE(John C @ Feb 17 2008, 01:49 PM) 130...   Feb 17 2008, 08:25 PM
- - Southerndon   Well Tim, You've gone and done it now! ...   Feb 17 2008, 04:04 AM
- - Southerndon   I"ve had to suspend Ellumbra indefinatly due ...   Feb 17 2008, 04:35 AM
- - rcars3   finally...thanks Don   Feb 17 2008, 02:27 PM
|- - Southerndon   QUOTE(rcars3 @ Feb 17 2008, 09:27 AM) 130...   Feb 17 2008, 03:16 PM
- - Little Mermaid   sorry to say this, but he is a nut case.   Feb 17 2008, 03:28 PM
|- - Southerndon   QUOTE(Little Mermaid @ Feb 17 2008, 10:28...   Feb 17 2008, 04:39 PM
- - AndrwMrk   Some people have this great ability to destroy the...   Feb 17 2008, 05:48 PM
- - EricJen   based on what i read on the post.. i think its not...   Feb 21 2008, 02:23 AM
- - Spammy Lagmay   Please give these links to everyone. http://filip...   Mar 2 2008, 10:26 AM
- - Spammy Lagmay   QUOTETimothy Cumper posted: All that garbage writ...   Mar 2 2008, 01:02 PM
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|- - Southerndon   QUOTE(MrkGrismer @ Mar 2 2008, 12:22 PM) ...   Mar 2 2008, 05:44 PM
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- - Southerndon   There you go Mark You've been promoted to ...   Mar 2 2008, 02:17 PM
- - Spammy Lagmay   QUOTEPOSTED BY TIMOTHY ELLIS CUMPER TIERRA MARIA ...   Mar 2 2008, 03:11 PM
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- - jepoy   guys a heads up, tim has created more imaginary f...   Mar 3 2008, 07:00 AM
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- - ohwell   QUOTE(MrkGrismer @ Mar 2 2008, 12:22 PM) It appear...   Mar 8 2008, 09:00 AM
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