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#1 Roxas Ron

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Posted 24 September 2011 - 04:08 AM

For those of us that are building or contemplating building a home in the Philippines let's discuss important issues that can both help us build and keep us from being taken advantage of.

Some points of discussion (of course please feel free to add more!)

1. did you use an engineer or just lead carpenter and crew?

2. did you build western style house or native structure.

3. did you build in a subdivision or province?

4. did you buy your own supplies or allow builder to purchase?

5. how much was your lot per square meter?

6. how much did your house cost to build excluding lot (peso per square meter?)

7. did you oversee construction yourself or did you allow it to be built while you are in the states?

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Posted 24 September 2011 - 04:09 AM

For those of us that are building or contemplating building a home in the Philippines let's discuss important issues that can both help us build and keep us from being taken advantage of.

Some points of discussion (of course please feel free to add more!)

1. did you use an engineer or just lead carpenter and crew?

2. did you build western style house or native structure.

3. did you build in a subdivision or province?

4. did you buy your own supplies or allow builder to purchase?

5. how much was your lot per square meter?

6. how much did your house cost to build excluding lot (peso per square meter?)

7. did you oversee construction yourself or did you allow it to be built while you are in the states?

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Posted 24 September 2011 - 05:16 PM

For those of us that are building or contemplating building a home in the Philippines let's discuss important issues that can both help us build and keep us from being taken advantage of.

Some points of discussion (of course please feel free to add more!)

1. did you use an engineer or just lead carpenter and crew?

use an engineer for the house plan drawings and estimates, used his crew or his carpenters/laborers to built the house.

2. did you build western style house or native structure.

western style, I kinda design the floor plan cause i like the open floor plan style.

3. did you build in a subdivision or province?

in the province..

4. did you buy your own supplies or allow builder to purchase?

my brother is the overseer of the project and he's the one who personally canvass for good prices around the area and purchases the supplies.
5. how much was your lot per square meter?

already own the lot.
6. how much did your house cost to build excluding lot (peso per square meter?)

at this moment i already spent around $20,000, not fully done, need to do second bathroom, more kitchen cabinet and island, paint the outside part of the house. (total area of the house 132 square meter)

7. did you oversee construction yourself or did you allow it to be built while you are in the states?

my brother did, with weekly update on expenditures and pictures sent to me, took 6 months to be habitable.


Edited by saccharine, 24 September 2011 - 05:23 PM.


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Posted 24 September 2011 - 06:13 PM

Why are u building yourself ? Is it much cheaper then buying new in subdivision ? If there R no subdivisions,
is it safe to build on ur own lot freestanding in province ?

just curious....


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Posted 24 September 2011 - 07:17 PM

For those of us that are building or contemplating building a home in the Philippines let's discuss important issues that can both help us build and keep us from being taken advantage of.

Some points of discussion (of course please feel free to add more!)

1. did you use an engineer or just lead carpenter and crew? Engineer and Builder in subd

2. did you build western style house or native structure. Philippine concrete subd style

3. did you build in a subdivision or province? subd

4. did you buy your own supplies or allow builder to purchase? Builder bought

5. how much was your lot per square meter? House and lot - 2.4

6. how much did your house cost to build excluding lot (peso per square meter?)

7. did you oversee construction yourself or did you allow it to be built while you are in the states? Family, pictures, phone calls

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Posted 25 September 2011 - 12:50 AM

salamat everyone...hopefully the discussion will continue with more input!

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Posted 25 September 2011 - 10:59 PM

Why are u building yourself ? Is it much cheaper then buying new in subdivision ? If there R no subdivisions,
is it safe to build on ur own lot freestanding in province ?

just curious....


the lot is available so why not use it, and yes its safe, been living there for over 30 years (actually its not really a province or remote barrio lot but located in the city, but not a big city and i just choose to answer it as a province cause it actually was and got change into a city. The subdivision house and lot available in our area are not that big and i dont like their designs anyway and some house constructions are really not well made, like you will see some cracks on the wall. We decided to build the house primarily for my parents to live there, also serves as a vacation house for us, and eventually a retirement house.

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Posted 25 September 2011 - 11:20 PM

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the lot is available so why not use it, and yes its safe, been living there for over 30 years (actually its not really a province or remote barrio lot but located in the city, but not a big city and i just choose to answer it as a province cause it actually was and got change into a city. The subdivision house and lot available in our area are not that big and i dont like their designs anyway and some house constructions are really not well made, like you will see some cracks on the wall. We decided to build the house primarily for my parents to live there, also serves as a vacation house for us, and eventually a retirement house.


i agree about the lack of quality construction in many subdivision houses ie...cracks etc. What did you do different when built your house to keep the walls from cracking etc?

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Posted 27 September 2011 - 05:15 AM

i agree about the lack of quality construction in many subdivision houses ie...cracks etc. What did you do different when built your house to keep the walls from cracking etc?


frankly I dont have any idea, as there are a lot of factors that might contribute to such, e.g not good foundation, etc. but i would like to believe that the previous works of those building crew has something to do with trusting them to do the right thing.

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Posted 28 September 2011 - 12:14 PM

i am looking into solid concrete walls with metal bracing instead of the dreaded hollow blocks and corner posts supporting all the roof weight. let everyone know later after my appointment with the company rep.

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Posted 28 September 2011 - 12:41 PM

We have the block construction but also large corner concrete support risers and there are also midpoint supports as well. Seems purty sturdy so far.. Solid concrete will cost you in my view but see what they say. Watching crews hand dig and form the foundation makes you treally respect manual labor but it also exposes where things could be skimped on such as a liile less concrete here and there in the mix, etc...

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Posted 28 September 2011 - 01:42 PM

We have the block construction but also large corner concrete support risers and there are also midpoint supports as well. Seems purty sturdy so far.. Solid concrete will cost you in my view but see what they say. Watching crews hand dig and form the foundation makes you treally respect manual labor but it also exposes where things could be skimped on such as a liile less concrete here and there in the mix, etc...

yeah you are right...i have spent the last 3 weeks looking at dozens and dozens of houses under different stages of completion and i have noticed that the walls are all just that free standing walls of block, not supporting the roof structure...second i have noticed that the majority of blocks are already chipping and breaking in various spots before the skim coat is applied inside and out side. i have also looked at many homes and building built this way that have stood for some years and all the skim coat is cracking thus probably leaking and causing the rebar to rust. also the amount of concrete to sand ratio in the blocks is skewed towards the sand thus increasing profit for the supplier. the same with the slab...so i can imagine the faulty construction of the footings for those corner posts. i am meeting the engineer for this company in manila on oct 10 on my way back stateside. will let you know. thanks for your input.

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Posted 28 September 2011 - 02:18 PM

yeah you are right...i have spent the last 3 weeks looking at dozens and dozens of houses under different stages of completion and i have noticed that the walls are all just that free standing walls of block, not supporting the roof structure...second i have noticed that the majority of blocks are already chipping and breaking in various spots before the skim coat is applied inside and out side. i have also looked at many homes and building built this way that have stood for some years and all the skim coat is cracking thus probably leaking and causing the rebar to rust. also the amount of concrete to sand ratio in the blocks is skewed towards the sand thus increasing profit for the supplier. the same with the slab...so i can imagine the faulty construction of the footings for those corner posts. i am meeting the engineer for this company in manila on oct 10 on my way back stateside. will let you know. thanks for your input.


Another point, hollow block (what we call concrete blocks) only look the same because of the molds they are made in. In the US they must meet standards for strength. There, they are made by hand all over the place and it is convenient for them that volcanic ash looks just like Portland cement. You can break off pieces with your fingers.

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Posted 28 September 2011 - 02:30 PM

I think it was JLG that used to have posts regarding the trials and tribulations he went thru to try to get hollow-block made to 'u.s. standards'.

Let me see...

Yep, still out there: http://www.asawainte...ation-home.html

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Posted 29 September 2011 - 01:46 AM

I wonder how he turned out?? Not heard anything from him and he was doing it right in building and being there to supervise it - lucky him.. Still, would like to know what he is up to..


I think it was JLG that used to have posts regarding the trials and tribulations he went thru to try to get hollow-block made to 'u.s. standards'.

Let me see...

Yep, still out there: http://www.asawainte...ation-home.html

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Posted 29 September 2011 - 03:26 AM

I wonder how he turned out?? Not heard anything from him and he was doing it right in building and being there to supervise it - lucky him.. Still, would like to know what he is up to..



yeah me too! just spent the entire morning and read the entire thread...what a strong house and good value. Hey Mark do you know his email address or website link?

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Posted 29 September 2011 - 06:51 AM

yeah me too! just spent the entire morning and read the entire thread...what a strong house and good value. Hey Mark do you know his email address or website link?

Ron, try sending him a PM on the Asawa site. His account is still live, he may check in occasionally.

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Posted 29 September 2011 - 12:48 PM

If his photobucket is any indication, he is still doing quite well: http://smg.photobuck...244/Pinerental/

But it is difficult to tell the dates from that. When I search for pinerental I don't get anything more recent than 2008.

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Posted 29 September 2011 - 01:08 PM

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If his photobucket is any indication, he is still doing quite well: http://smg.photobuck...244/Pinerental/

But it is difficult to tell the dates from that. When I search for pinerental I don't get anything more recent than 2008.


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Posted 29 September 2011 - 11:06 PM

Always wondered if the guys was part of the "advisors" in the pinas or is/was special forces.. He IS having a blast by the pics..




Just curious what advisors you mean? I had an interesting conversation with a white man on a plane to Davao that made a half-attempt at telling me that he was a retired high-up in the US Military with no official business in Mindanao. It was thinly veiled, I believe intentionally, in order for me to see right through his story.. I think.. Since my in-laws all know that there are US soldiers training around Mindanao and everyone has seen them.. what is really going on there?





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