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#1 Mel

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Posted 29 November 2009 - 04:12 AM

Hi everyone. Last year, Rocelle and I bought a lot in Northern Mindanao, in Bayugan City. The lot is 450 square meters, or 4,842 square ft. The lot is across the street from Rocelle's family, and is surrounded by friends and family, so we would feel relatively safe there.

We are interested in building a house on the lot. Rocelle's parents would watch it to make sure no squatters move in. We are looking for a cement (concrete - no snakes!!) one floor home, with a kitchen, 1 or 2 bathrooms (full american style with shower), living room, three bedrooms, windows, air conditioning, back-up generator, septic tank, gate around the property. Rocelle's Dad is a carpenter and would be in charge of the work crew.

I am writiing this post to get an idea of costs to build this type of house. Again, we have already bought the lot, so that would not be part of the construction cost. The reasons we are interested in doing this is to cut down our expenses when we visit, plus we are close with Rocelle's family, + I am very close with Rocelle's 12 year old brother who would want to stay with us. If, as it appears, we cannot get him into USA, then perhaps we can spend more time in PI. Any cost estimates would be appreciated, as would suggestions about other cost items I have not included above. Thanks.

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Posted 29 November 2009 - 06:49 AM

hi Mel,

Wow, building in PI when you're not there is really a pain in the yo knw what, LOl.. Anyway, since her father is a carpenter, that will save you a lot of contractor fees... Make sure he knows and is familiar with American style kitchen and bath. You can find designs online or make your own design and let somebody in PI draw it for you for blueprints and for building permit, etc...

I can say maybe $40k-60 would do it for you, since it is only a 1-storey house, that's smart. You'll probably spend $5k or more for the fence since its a good size lot. Just tell them to plant a lot of trees around it: "that was my mistake."

Good luck!

Pau

p.s. my family's house (2-storey, 4-bedroom, 2baths) is still "on construction" until now, its already 75% done, but they moved in already. We already spend almost $$50k, but its totally worth it! I demanded lots of pictures every week for the progress, LOL...

Can't wait to build our own house for "us" in the future!

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Posted 29 November 2009 - 06:57 AM

QUOTE (Mel @ Nov 28 2009, 06:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hi everyone. Last year, Rocelle and I bought a lot in Northern Mindanao, in Bayugan City. The lot is 450 square meters, or 4,842 square ft. The lot is across the street from Rocelle's family, and is surrounded by friends and family, so we would feel relatively safe there.

We are interested in building a house on the lot. Rocelle's parents would watch it to make sure no squatters move in. We are looking for a cement (concrete - no snakes!!) one floor home, with a kitchen, 1 or 2 bathrooms (full american style with shower), living room, three bedrooms, windows, air conditioning, back-up generator, septic tank, gate around the property. Rocelle's Dad is a carpenter and would be in charge of the work crew.

I am writiing this post to get an idea of costs to build this type of house. Again, we have already bought the lot, so that would not be part of the construction cost. The reasons we are interested in doing this is to cut down our expenses when we visit, plus we are close with Rocelle's family, + I am very close with Rocelle's 12 year old brother who would want to stay with us. If, as it appears, we cannot get him into USA, then perhaps we can spend more time in PI. Any cost estimates would be appreciated, as would suggestions about other cost items I have not included above. Thanks.

Build a wall and put in the septic system first. Well if needed naman. That'll give you some idea of building cost.
You might consider going 2 stories as that's a small lot.
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Posted 29 November 2009 - 10:11 AM

You can just hire an engineer to supervised your father inlaw. We were building our house also. Now that we were here in PI. We buy everything and supervised it ourselves to make sure its done right. Now were happy to see the progress.

If you can manage it yourself then much better. So you will not regret in the end. Building a house is not an easy task. So plan more and give yourself some time.

Don't deal with constructor they were pain in the butt lol. I think its a smart idea not to build a huge house.

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Posted 29 November 2009 - 05:05 PM

QUOTE (renocouple @ Nov 29 2009, 01:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Just tell them to plant a lot of trees around it: "that was my mistake."


I am curious as to the 'why' behind the above statement. huh.gif biggrin.gif

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Posted 29 November 2009 - 06:16 PM

QUOTE (MrkGrismer @ Nov 29 2009, 07:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I am curious as to the 'why' behind the above statement. huh.gif biggrin.gif

Here in the tropics we plant trees on the afternoon side of houses to get shade and help cool the houses.
Also we don't plant plants close to houses so the "critters" like mosquitos, centipeeds, scorpions etc have a place to breed.
Really don't understand what that poster was trying to say tho.
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Posted 29 November 2009 - 08:57 PM

QUOTE (MrkGrismer @ Nov 30 2009, 01:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I am curious as to the 'why' behind the above statement. huh.gif biggrin.gif


LOL, my mistake was when my sisters sent me pics of the progress of the house construction, it looks like we're sorrounded with trees, so i did not tell them to plant trees, or i did not ask. When i got there and saw the house, it sticks out from everybody and the trees i saw from the pictures are not ours, its the neighbors. So there was no shade or anything, just a fence and i don't like it sticking out from everybody since its a high 2-storey house. Now i told them to plant trees sorrounding the whole lot to give us some privacy also!

pau

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Posted 30 November 2009 - 03:33 PM

QUOTE (Ampalaya @ Nov 29 2009, 01:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Here in the tropics we plant trees on the afternoon side of houses to get shade and help cool the houses.
Also we don't plant plants close to houses so the "critters" like mosquitos, centipeeds, scorpions etc have a place to breed.
Really don't understand what that poster was trying to say tho.



QUOTE (renocouple @ Nov 29 2009, 03:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
LOL, my mistake was when my sisters sent me pics of the progress of the house construction, it looks like we're sorrounded with trees, so i did not tell them to plant trees, or i did not ask. When i got there and saw the house, it sticks out from everybody and the trees i saw from the pictures are not ours, its the neighbors. So there was no shade or anything, just a fence and i don't like it sticking out from everybody since its a high 2-storey house. Now i told them to plant trees sorrounding the whole lot to give us some privacy also!

pau



Thanks for the explaination!

We plant trees here for shade and privacy as well, but it is probably not as important. We also have to keep in mind the consideration of where all the leaves and seeds (acorns, etc.) will fall during the autumn wink.gif biggrin.gif For that reason many don't want to have trees that will overhang the house (the leaves fall on the roof and clog the rain gutters). Plus during the winter if there is an ice storm branches can break off and you don't want that happening over the roof! biggrin.gif

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Posted 19 May 2013 - 11:37 PM

http://sibonga.com/c...og/?page_id=884

 

Came across this while surfing,

I am casually trying to learn the in's and outs

of building vs buying.

Anyone ever here of this guy or contractors like him ?

Do you know if any others exist ? I couldn't find any on the

web other then him.  ( besides the big estate developers)

Would there be a "BBB" rating for this type of business in the Phils ?

just curious,....

 

hope everyone is well !



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Posted 20 May 2013 - 02:01 AM

Dwarf coconut, mango, papaya & jackfruit are nice trees to have in the yard.

(Dwarf coconuts because the 60 foot drop causes the nuts to do serious damage when they fall)

 

Bananas are also a good garden plant as you get a full stalk around once a year and they are a handy source of disposable picnic plates and platters.  The only drawback is they need to be replanted annually.

 

Mahogany is also a good garden tree ... think of it as an investment :D

 

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Posted 20 May 2013 - 04:33 AM

http://sibonga.com/c...og/?page_id=884

 

Came across this while surfing,

I am casually trying to learn the in's and outs

of building vs buying.

Anyone ever here of this guy or contractors like him ?

Do you know if any others exist ? I couldn't find any on the

web other then him.  ( besides the big estate developers)

Would there be a "BBB" rating for this type of business in the Phils ?

just curious,....

 

hope everyone is well !

yes,

 

i met with them about 2 1/2 years ago in manila at there office, and then in Jan this year here. i got a quote from them. they build solid concrete walls with forms, the problem i had with that is when they pull the forms away they still have to cover the walls with cement like dry wall paste to cover all the cracks and holes.

 

i investigated another company emery estates (btw their web site is down today). they build with the absolute wall system, which is cement fiber panels filled with rebar and concrete. the advantage to this is the wall both interior and exterior are smooth and very straight. for your info hollow block construction withstands about 750 psi and the absolute wall is 3500-5000psi. 

 

i was impressed by their architect and engineer. they are currently building my house for me. they have good relationships with some excellent suppliers of quality product.

 

of course the cost is probably 20 % higher than traditional Filipino building style but more than worth in strength, warranty, cosmetics and peace of mind. 

 

let me know and i will have the owner contact you.

 

ron

 

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Edited by Roxas Ron, 20 May 2013 - 04:34 AM.


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Posted 21 May 2013 - 02:17 PM

THANKS RON

great information

...and I have been reading your blog, thanks for sharing and taking the time

Tom

 

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Posted 21 May 2013 - 02:49 PM

After buying a pre-built gated residence style home in Bacolod I would have to agree that one needs to have a good representation while the house is being built. We had sewer gas venting issues and loose wiring terminations at the breaker box that were a bit scary.. My next (whenever that is) will be an existing that I can renovate or one we can watch from start to finish.. I like the wall system mentioned here but the added cost is the friction point for me..



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Posted 21 May 2013 - 11:37 PM

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After buying a pre-built gated residence style home in Bacolod I would have to agree that one needs to have a good representation while the house is being built. We had sewer gas venting issues and loose wiring terminations at the breaker box that were a bit scary.. My next (whenever that is) will be an existing that I can renovate or one we can watch from start to finish.. I like the wall system mentioned here but the added cost is the friction point for me..

We can all appreciate not wanting to spend to much, but I viewed this from the point that not only was I building a house for me but my son. He is 17 months old and I wanted to build a strong house, one that he could live in with his family long after I am gone. 

 

Not only is this house built with the AWS but it also has a roof from New Zealand that is designed to last decades even when installed along the coast. 

 

I read an article the other day on a blog that discussed being cautious when living in the PI. It discussed while all of us like spending as little money as possible some things you gotta spend just a little more on for comfort, safety and longevity.






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