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#101 beeguy

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Posted 13 June 2010 - 03:25 PM

QUOTE (fe @ Jun 13 2010, 09:02 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The practice of abbreviating words, skipping vowels and punctuation marks and minimizing the number of spaces in between words, is due to the fact that one is limited to the number of letters that he can send in a single text message. I hated it too when I was still in the Philippines, as I had difficulty understanding a message, specially when it was long. Thus, I abbreviated my text messages only when I knew that the other person could understand them. Punctuation marks should not be optional, but as I already stated, it's deliberately done, because of the "limitation" issue. It shouldn't be a problem, however, if the message is short, but again, Filipinos are already used to the text messaging system, that no matter what they are writing, they tend to abbreviate, even in emails. And I don't understand why they have to do that in emails. It's a bad practice, especially with kids because they tend to forget the usage of correct grammar and punctuation marks and they have difficulty knowing the right spelling of many English words. It makes their writing and speaking in English very poor. I had taught Accounting subjects before, and I was a witness on how the English communication skills of students had deteriorated. I partly blamed the text messaging system. When I was a student, I didn't have a cell phone. smile.gif

Going back to the original topic, in the Philippines, when we answer a question with a closed mouth sounding like umm-umm, it means "yes". Here in the US, that means "no". You should say "ah-ah" if you mean "yes". So in my first months here, my husband had to correct me a number of times so that we could understand each other. laugh.gif

If you are acquainted with Happy Slip on YouTube, "Pinay Talk" is pretty much what she uses as her humor (beside the quirks of her family). http://www.youtube.c...u/0/2i-byAA8MMA

03/02/2010: First trip to the Philippines.
04/06/2010: Joined WOF
04/11/2010: Met on Cherry Blossoms.
05/06/2010: Talked her into joining WOF.
05/13/2010: Changed our statuses on Facebook to "in a relationship".
05/28/2010: Met her friend and her employer in Chicago (here on business).
08/17/2010: Booked trip to the Philippines.
09/05/2010: Arrived in Manila late at night. Met her in the waiting area. WOW!
09/08/2010: Met her parents and most of the family!
09/10/2010: Trekked to the top of Mt. Pinatubo and surprised her with a ring. She said YES!
09/19/2010: Had to return to US. :(
03/25/2011: Arrived second visit with her. Together again.
04/14/2011: Flew back to Chicago :(

K-1
07/25/2011: Starting on K-1 package. Where did I put all that stuff???
08/02/2011: K-1 Petition package mailed via Priority Mail to Texas Service Center! The clock is running...

08/09/2011: K-1 Petition package delivered to Texas Service Center.
08/13/2011: K-1 Petition NOA1 received.
01/11/2012: I129F PETITION FOR FIANCE(E) APPROVED
01/27/2012: NVC notification letter received.
02/07/2012: She received the letter from the US Embassy
02/14/2012: She passed the physical at St. Lukes!
02/15/2012: She finished her CFO seminar
02/27/2012: Depart O'Hare for Manila
02/28/2012: Arrived very late in Manila

03/01/2012: Interview at the US Embassy - K1 VISA APPROVED!!
03/07/2012: Visa delivered!
03/08/2012: Got CFO sticker.

03/16/2012: Arrived in the USA together.

05/12/2012: Married!!!

AOS

05/18/2012: Mailed AOS package to USCIS.
08/10/2012: Received temp Emp Auth Card with Advanced Parole from USCIS.

04/04/2013: Received her Permanent Resident Card from USCIS!

 

Removing Conditions

03/20/2015: Mailed I-751 package to USCIS

03/23/2015: I-751 package arrived at the California Service Center

03/25/2015: I-751 check cashed by USCIS

03/27/2015: I-751 NOA received from USCIS

04/13/2015: Bought tickets to Phil for her brother's wedding in June.

 

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#102 Sonia M

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Posted 13 June 2010 - 05:04 PM

That's a funny video!
I am using the same razor phone now and it took me a year to learn how to compose SMS with this unit. This cellphone still gives me a hard time composing messages. I rarely send SMS even if we have unlimited family texting plan now. This has never been a user-friendly texting phone. I prefer the first unit I was using here which was Nokia 2610 but I already shipped it to my family in the Phils.

QUOTE (beeguy @ Jun 13 2010, 11:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If you are acquainted with Happy Slip on YouTube, "Pinay Talk" is pretty much what she uses as her humor (beside the quirks of her family). http://www.youtube.c...u/0/2i-byAA8MMA


I know!
We all know when it is deliberately done or when it has become the way of life for these poor communicators. Most Filipinos even use this as an excuse to err, misspell or abbreviate measuredly. But the reality is, most of these folks do not really know the proper communication skills.
The new generation X of Filipinos has deleted and added some vowel/s and consonant/s in Filipino alphabet. Don't you know that they are using "X" now in Filipino language? Like "siya" or he/she in English. It is now officially "xa". Gosh! Most of them even added "H" next or after every vowel.
I have seen these with my own teenagers' SMS and Facebook comments. But of course they avoid writing the Pinoy style with their friends and co-workers here in the US. Otherwise, they will look dumb to locals here. biggrin.gif


QUOTE (fe @ Jun 13 2010, 10:02 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The practice of abbreviating words, skipping vowels and punctuation marks and minimizing the number of spaces in between words, is due to the fact that one is limited to the number of letters that he can send in a single text message. I hated it too when I was still in the Philippines, as I had difficulty understanding a message, specially when it was long. Thus, I abbreviated my text messages only when I knew that the other person could understand them. Punctuation marks should not be optional, but as I already stated, it's deliberately done, because of the "limitation" issue. It shouldn't be a problem, however, if the message is short, but again, Filipinos are already used to the text messaging system, that no matter what they are writing, they tend to abbreviate, even in emails. And I don't understand why they have to do that in emails. It's a bad practice, especially with kids because they tend to forget the usage of correct grammar and punctuation marks and they have difficulty knowing the right spelling of many English words. It makes their writing and speaking in English very poor. I had taught Accounting subjects before, and I was a witness on how the English communication skills of students had deteriorated. I partly blamed the text messaging system. When I was a student, I didn't have a cell phone. smile.gif
Going back to the original topic, in the Philippines, when we answer a question with a closed mouth sounding like umm-umm, it means "yes". Here in the US, that means "no". You should say "ah-ah" if you mean "yes". So in my first months here, my husband had to correct me a number of times so that we could understand each other. laugh.gif

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#103 beeguy

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Posted 13 June 2010 - 05:36 PM

QUOTE (soniamull @ Jun 13 2010, 12:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That's a funny video!
I am using the same razor phone now and it took me a year to learn how to compose SMS with this unit. This cellphone still gives me a hard time composing messages. I rarely send SMS even if we have unlimited family texting plan now. This has never been a user-friendly texting phone. I prefer the first unit I was using here which was Nokia 2610 but I already shipped it to my family in the Phils.



I know!
We all know when it is deliberately done or when it has become the way of life for these poor communicators. Most Filipinos even use this as an excuse to err, misspell or abbreviate measuredly. But the reality is, most of these folks do not really know the proper communication skills.
The new generation X of Filipinos has deleted and added some vowel/s and consonant/s in Filipino alphabet. Don't you know that they are using "X" now in Filipino language? Like "siya" or he/she in English. It is now officially "xa". Gosh! Most of them even added "H" next or after every vowel.
I have seen these with my own teenagers' SMS and Facebook comments. But of course they avoid writing the Pinoy style with their friends and co-workers here in the US. Otherwise, they will look dumb to locals here. biggrin.gif



Ha! It is not just Filipinos! I am afraid that all of our languages will suffer greatly from the txt msg revolution. I just think that the the Philippines is leading the way because the people have so completely adopted text messaging (SMS) in their everyday lives.

It has been a major change in my life because, before I got involved with a Filipina, I don't think I had sent more than 5 SMS messages before. The first few times I tried to communicate with her, I thought that she had messages in templates waiting to send! It would take me 15-20 minutes to compose my message and I would get a 3 screen reply in 30 seconds. It was intimidating!

Now it has become the major means of communicating because my long distance is so poor and unreliable.

I have 3 cell phones I carry because of business and 2 are Motorola and one is a Nokia. All have minor differences that cause major headaches when "texting". My worst problem was just like in Happy Slip's video. A long message, trying to fit everything into one SMS message, and then bumping the red "hang up" button and deleting the entire message! Grrrrr!

Edited by beeguy, 13 June 2010 - 05:44 PM.

03/02/2010: First trip to the Philippines.
04/06/2010: Joined WOF
04/11/2010: Met on Cherry Blossoms.
05/06/2010: Talked her into joining WOF.
05/13/2010: Changed our statuses on Facebook to "in a relationship".
05/28/2010: Met her friend and her employer in Chicago (here on business).
08/17/2010: Booked trip to the Philippines.
09/05/2010: Arrived in Manila late at night. Met her in the waiting area. WOW!
09/08/2010: Met her parents and most of the family!
09/10/2010: Trekked to the top of Mt. Pinatubo and surprised her with a ring. She said YES!
09/19/2010: Had to return to US. :(
03/25/2011: Arrived second visit with her. Together again.
04/14/2011: Flew back to Chicago :(

K-1
07/25/2011: Starting on K-1 package. Where did I put all that stuff???
08/02/2011: K-1 Petition package mailed via Priority Mail to Texas Service Center! The clock is running...

08/09/2011: K-1 Petition package delivered to Texas Service Center.
08/13/2011: K-1 Petition NOA1 received.
01/11/2012: I129F PETITION FOR FIANCE(E) APPROVED
01/27/2012: NVC notification letter received.
02/07/2012: She received the letter from the US Embassy
02/14/2012: She passed the physical at St. Lukes!
02/15/2012: She finished her CFO seminar
02/27/2012: Depart O'Hare for Manila
02/28/2012: Arrived very late in Manila

03/01/2012: Interview at the US Embassy - K1 VISA APPROVED!!
03/07/2012: Visa delivered!
03/08/2012: Got CFO sticker.

03/16/2012: Arrived in the USA together.

05/12/2012: Married!!!

AOS

05/18/2012: Mailed AOS package to USCIS.
08/10/2012: Received temp Emp Auth Card with Advanced Parole from USCIS.

04/04/2013: Received her Permanent Resident Card from USCIS!

 

Removing Conditions

03/20/2015: Mailed I-751 package to USCIS

03/23/2015: I-751 package arrived at the California Service Center

03/25/2015: I-751 check cashed by USCIS

03/27/2015: I-751 NOA received from USCIS

04/13/2015: Bought tickets to Phil for her brother's wedding in June.

 

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