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Posted 19 April 2009 - 09:07 PM

Hi guys! just asking for suggestion or anybody that has the same situation as this. Well, a friend of mine is having problems on how to stop bottle feeding her 3 years old son. He eats good, he drinks some other liquids on a zippy cup, but he always wanted to drink his milk on a bottle. I suggested to her that she just have to quit giving him milk on a bottle, but instead try it on a cup. (that's what i did to my kids anyway). But she's afraid that her son won't get enough of calcium. I don't know what else to tell. Any idea out there??

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Posted 19 April 2009 - 11:57 PM

QUOTE (cabbagepatch @ Apr 20 2009, 05:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hi guys! just asking for suggestion or anybody that has the same situation as this. Well, a friend of mine is having problems on how to stop bottle feeding her 3 years old son. He eats good, he drinks some other liquids on a zippy cup, but he always wanted to drink his milk on a bottle. I suggested to her that she just have to quit giving him milk on a bottle, but instead try it on a cup. (that's what i did to my kids anyway). But she's afraid that her son won't get enough of calcium. I don't know what else to tell. Any idea out there??


I would suggest the same thing that you told her, she should start doing it as soon as possible (training her son to use cup in drinking milk) because using the bottle is not that good for his teeth. It will be hard at first but as soon as her son will get used to cup then it won't be a problem. She can also give her son a multivitamin supplement if she worries for not having enough calcium.

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Posted 20 April 2009 - 12:09 AM

I helped raise my nephew who is now 7. His mother is a nurse and started working when he was about 5 months old. Getting him to suck the nipple of the bottle was already difficult for us and when he finally did (because he was starving), we were all very happy. I can't remember what age he stopped drinking milk in a bottle, but for sure it didn't bother us. For what was more important is that he didn't go hungry. We tried putting his milk on a cup when he was 3 but he refused to drink it, so we switched back to the bottles. He ate good and all, but at bedtime he'd still ask for his milk in the bottle. My friend who is a male nurse in UK said that kids until 5 years old can be fed with bottles. He has kids like my nephew's age. Now i'm not the expert.. but in my personal opinion... a 3 year old is still pretty much a baby.. let him enjoy it. If he wants to stay in the bottle for a few more months, or even a year, why not? My nephew just decided to quit drinking in a bottle when we showed him some kids his age drinking in cups.

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Posted 20 April 2009 - 12:21 AM

QUOTE (cabbagepatch @ Apr 19 2009, 02:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hi guys! just asking for suggestion or anybody that has the same situation as this. Well, a friend of mine is having problems on how to stop bottle feeding her 3 years old son. He eats good, he drinks some other liquids on a zippy cup, but he always wanted to drink his milk on a bottle. I suggested to her that she just have to quit giving him milk on a bottle, but instead try it on a cup. (that's what i did to my kids anyway). But she's afraid that her son won't get enough of calcium. I don't know what else to tell. Any idea out there??


My god,

Take the bottle away and let nature take it's course.

If this is an issue then just fast forward to some of the really tough ones in the future.

It's gonna be a long hard road!

She is the parent of the child.

And makes the rules.

The child is just testing whether this is true or not.

It's in the childs nature to do that so you can't blame him.


Negotiations are for labor unions, not for babies.






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Posted 20 April 2009 - 01:17 AM

QUOTE (John C @ Apr 19 2009, 08:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
My god,
Take the bottle away and let nature take it's course.
If this is an issue then just fast forward to some of the really tough ones in the future.
It's gonna be a long hard road!
She is the parent of the child.
And makes the rules.
The child is just testing whether this is true or not.
It's in the childs nature to do that so you can't blame him.
Negotiations are for labor unions, not for babies.


I second the motion. Negotiations and appeasement don't work with kid's. Be in charge. Don't let the child run YOU! You run the child. Further....milk in the bed in a bottle will sit in his mouth and cause tooth decay during the night. Give him the milk in the cup in the usual amount and he will get plenty of Calcium as usual. Tell him that BIG BOYS drink from a cup...look at Daddy....He doesn't use a bottle. Of course daddy might start hitting the bottle later if this child ends up running your lives. Those kind of children are horrible to be around.

Ainees niece is like that....runs the show. After I was there for just ONE day that kid was an Angel with me and understood her boundaries as far as I was conerned...but everyone else, OHHHH boy! she was still a terror. Now imagine how easy it was to establish that repoire with this kid AND she loved me to death. She just knew I was not her patsy like all the otheres.

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Posted 20 April 2009 - 01:35 AM

QUOTE (cabbagepatch @ Apr 19 2009, 05:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hi guys! just asking for suggestion or anybody that has the same situation as this. Well, a friend of mine is having problems on how to stop bottle feeding her 3 years old son. He eats good, he drinks some other liquids on a zippy cup, but he always wanted to drink his milk on a bottle. I suggested to her that she just have to quit giving him milk on a bottle, but instead try it on a cup. (that's what i did to my kids anyway). But she's afraid that her son won't get enough of calcium. I don't know what else to tell. Any idea out there??


My niece will be turning 5 yrs. old this July and will be in Kinder II this June but she's still in bottle feeding! ohmy.gif she takes bottle with her in school. She switched different brand after couple of months and she's the one picked what she likes , mom cannot stop her! As of now she's using Lactum blink.gif we don't know what's next.

Edited by Ella, 20 April 2009 - 01:37 AM.

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Posted 20 April 2009 - 03:29 AM

QUOTE (Ella @ Apr 19 2009, 06:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
My niece will be turning 5 yrs. old this July and will be in Kinder II this June but she's still in bottle feeding! ohmy.gif she takes bottle with her in school. She switched different brand after couple of months and she's the one picked what she likes , mom cannot will not stop her! As of now she's using Lactum blink.gif we don't know what's next.



Lucky she doesn't still want to breast feed. Then she will be leading her mom around by the breast instead of the nose.

Unbelievable!!





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Posted 20 April 2009 - 03:48 AM

Rules, Boundaries and Limitations THEN Affection.

Put this in the wrong order and you are screwed.

or worse miss one or more of the first three.

It seems for her is Affection, Affection and More Affection.

I can even hear her saying "it is going to traumatize the kid".

Wake up sister cause this is an easy problem.

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Posted 20 April 2009 - 03:52 AM

QUOTE (John C @ Apr 19 2009, 11:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Lucky she doesn't still want to breast feed. Then she will be leading her mom around by the breast instead of the nose.

Unbelievable!!


Hmmm...let's see? If I throw the bottles in the trash and they are gone then I guess my daughter will go the store and buy new ones for herself since I'm so weak and out of control of the situation that I let her use my credit card whenever she wants....I guess she could drive herself to the store since she has more control of the family than I do. Any way she's pretty smart for a 5 year old or she wouldn't be running the family would she? SO I guess it will be ok for her to drive to the store for her new bottles. tongue.gif

Is this a Filipina trait? To let the kids do and have whatever they want whenever they want?
Good heavens....wake up! YOU are the adult in the house....take command.
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Posted 20 April 2009 - 06:51 AM

I don't know if she still is, but Suri Cruise (daughter of Tom Cruise and Katie Holmes) was still bottle-fed even when she was already 2.

When I was like 7, I had a playmate who was still bottle-feeding at 6 which looked very weird. Speaking of weird, here's a video of "big" girls still breastfeeding.




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Posted 20 April 2009 - 02:17 PM

QUOTE (zzzlpr @ Apr 19 2009, 11:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Rules, Boundaries and Limitations THEN Affection.

Put this in the wrong order and you are screwed.

or worse miss one or more of the first three.

It seems for her is Affection, Affection and More Affection.

I can even hear her saying "it is going to traumatize the kid".

Wake up sister cause this is an easy problem.

Peace,

Carlos.

ps. The first line works with dogs quite well too.


I think in my niece and sister's case is affection her kids are hard to feed, I meant no appetite, you have to chase them and do the spoon feeding cause if you don't, they are eat less for the rest of the day. She just worried if they go to school with empty stomach so milk in a bottle is the last option but no one in the family likes that idea,. I'm sure she will stop this habit if her classmates teas her in school. We hope so, or else.. she has to wait for me to come back! unsure.gif - Well, I love my nieces very much and very proud of them, they are top honors in private school but the only problem is the bottle!
You will be sad I understand, but don't let grief then stay your hand, For on this day, more than the rest, your love and friendship must stand the test.

We have had so many happy years, you wouldn't want me to suffer so. When the time comes, please, let me go.

Take me to where to my needs they'll tend, only, stay with me.. until the end, and hold me firm and speak to me until my eyes no longer see.

I know in time you will agree, it is a kindness you do to me. Although my tail at last has waved, from suffering I have been saved.

We've been so close--we two---these years, don't let your heart hold any tears."

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Posted 20 April 2009 - 02:47 PM

QUOTE (Ella @ Apr 20 2009, 07:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think in my niece and sister's case is affection her kids are hard to feed, I meant no appetite, you have to chase them and do the spoon feeding cause if you don't, they are eat less for the rest of the day. She just worried if they go to school with empty stomach so milk in a bottle is the last option but no one in the family likes that idea,. I'm sure she will stop this habit if her classmates teas her in school. We hope so, or else.. she has to wait for me to come back! unsure.gif - Well, I love my nieces very much and very proud of them, they are top honors in private school but the only problem is the bottle!



same thing happen to my friends daughter, she was already 5 years old then and drink her milk in a bottle when she goes to sleep, I asked my friend why she does that when she's already big, she said ruby when you have kids you will understand me, surely enough when I have Jaden oh my I cant blame her.

my friend's daughter stopped eventually on her own, she is also very smart and a top honor in her class, she goes to a private school in cdo, she was the one who always spoke to my husband when we were in Pinas before, shes very good in English hay I miss her. sad.gif


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Posted 20 April 2009 - 02:50 PM

QUOTE (Paul Orr @ Apr 19 2009, 11:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hmmm...let's see? If I throw the bottles in the trash and they are gone then I guess my daughter will go the store and buy new ones for herself since I'm so weak and out of control of the situation that I let her use my credit card whenever she wants....I guess she could drive herself to the store since she has more control of the family than I do. Any way she's pretty smart for a 5 year old or she wouldn't be running the family would she? SO I guess it will be ok for her to drive to the store for her new bottles. tongue.gif

Is this a Filipina trait? To let the kids do and have whatever they want whenever they want?
Good heavens....wake up! YOU are the adult in the house....take command.
Spare the rod and spoil the child...does that sound familiar?


Paul Orr,..
Are you mad?? ( just asking ) For me, this is simple problem compared to other cases and of course not a Filipina trait, it depends on individual either you're a Filipina or American on how you discipline your child and I wished all parents are like you so working with children ain't too tough for us in school.
You will be sad I understand, but don't let grief then stay your hand, For on this day, more than the rest, your love and friendship must stand the test.

We have had so many happy years, you wouldn't want me to suffer so. When the time comes, please, let me go.

Take me to where to my needs they'll tend, only, stay with me.. until the end, and hold me firm and speak to me until my eyes no longer see.

I know in time you will agree, it is a kindness you do to me. Although my tail at last has waved, from suffering I have been saved.

We've been so close--we two---these years, don't let your heart hold any tears."

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Posted 20 April 2009 - 04:22 PM

Thanks a bunch for "ALL" your replies and suggestions. I do appreciate them. Rest assure that im gonna have a talk with her..just a friendly talk smile.gif

She's a very good friend of mine..and i know she's a good mother too. I just wanted to help her. I dont want to question her parenting because i know when it comes to her family, she knows better than i do. smile.gif



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Posted 20 April 2009 - 05:49 PM

QUOTE (Paul Orr @ Apr 20 2009, 11:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hmmm...let's see? If I throw the bottles in the trash and they are gone then I guess my daughter will go the store and buy new ones for herself since I'm so weak and out of control of the situation that I let her use my credit card whenever she wants....I guess she could drive herself to the store since she has more control of the family than I do. Any way she's pretty smart for a 5 year old or she wouldn't be running the family would she? SO I guess it will be ok for her to drive to the store for her new bottles. tongue.gif

Is this a Filipina trait? To let the kids do and have whatever they want whenever they want?
Good heavens....wake up! YOU are the adult in the house....take command.
Spare the rod and spoil the child...does that sound familiar?


Paul, this trait has nothing to do with a race. It could be trait of any mother (parents) from all races. And as a mother I do understand them if they let their kids do and have whatever they want and whenever they want, sometimes kids are just so hard to tame and to stop from causing more trouble they do just let them have what their kids want.

For me, however, this is not my trait because as a parent I want to make sure that their is a balance in treating our daughter. My husband loves her so much that sometimes I think he doesn't know how much he spoils her, and if I will let our daughter do whatever we will be in a big trouble, so I am the one who always says "NO" to let her know that there's limitation (I'm the mean mother, that's what she said) lol but just like what John C's quote says, "Negotiation is for union labor, not for babies".

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Posted 20 April 2009 - 09:55 PM

I guess this is not really a big problem compared to thumb sucking which I had a problem with my son until he was in 3rd grade.He often hides under his desk whenver he likes to do it.I did a lot of things for him to stop sucking his thumb cos I was afraid it will deform his teeth.But then when he was bullied by his classmates and he starts to like a girl from his class then he just stopped by doing his own thing.

You can throw the bottle oryou can trick them just like I tricked all my 3 children by tearing the nipples and told them that the cat eats the nipple and its yulky if they continue using it.Then they understand of course they are already 2 years old during those time so they will just ask me to give them thier milk in a glass.

See the picture of my kids in my signature...They grew up strong and healthy ,,,,she must not worry too much .This problem is so easy ...not unless the kid control the parent.The parent must be firm ....

Edited by asianstreak, 20 April 2009 - 09:56 PM.


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Posted 20 April 2009 - 11:34 PM

QUOTE (felixDcat @ Apr 20 2009, 01:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Paul, this trait has nothing to do with a race. It could be trait of any mother (parents) from all races. And as a mother I do understand them if they let their kids do and have whatever they want and whenever they want, sometimes kids are just so hard to tame and to stop from causing more trouble they do just let them have what their kids want.


I may have stepped lightly over the line when I said that but I have not seen American kids in schools with a bottle. In your statement above you drive home the point that John C and I were trying to make. Letting them have and do what they want is exactly the problem in the 1st place. Then when they act up to get what they want you give it to them to quiet and "Tame" them. That is exactly the wrong thing to do. That USUALLY comes from parents who fear "lightly" disciplining their kids for fear that the kid will hate them. That is wrong, wrong, wrong. The kid will not hate them and in fact will end up being closer to them and will grow to love and respect the parents. I am not talking about Beating your kids here, just light physical discipline (while they are still young). After about age 7 or 8 it is too late and you may end up with a real monster on your hands. It only takes a few times at a young age for kids to understand that you mean it when you say "no". Then stick with it.....

As for a 3 year old bottle drinker, that is not really a disciplinary issue per se. It is after removing the bottle that he might act up and that would be the reason for a small amount of discipline. It does not sound like that is even the question of the OP though. She just seemed concerned that he would oly drink milk from a bottle and didn't mention any behaviors if the bottle went "bye, bye". She was just worried he wouldn't get enough Calcium. I don't see why a bottle or a cup would make any difference in the amount of Calcium he gets. There must be extra Calcium in the bottle I guess? tongue.gif

I liked Shone's idea of nipple sabotage. You could even puncture a hole in the nipple so he only sucks air when he tries to drink, then suggest maybe it would work better in a sippy-cup because maybe he is to big to use the bottle correctly anymore. Lot's of ways to solve the problem here in this thread.

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